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Dig Deeper Into Car Buying Research With Enthusiast Forums

by Mitch on April 24, 2008

You surfed the manufacturer’s site and got an idea of price ranges and options. You read reviews and saw the crash safety ratings. You even checked out invoice prices and rebates online so you’d know what you can expect to pay. Now you’re all set to hit the bricks and start shopping for that dream car, right?

Not so fast my friend. You missed a key spot in the Internet buyer’s process… one that is often forgotten but extremely helpful. It’s the enthusiast forum, and its value as a research avenue is realized in several ways:

  • Forums serve as a crystal ball of vehicle ownership. You can see what real people are saying about your dream car from 6 months to 6 years after the initial purchase.
  • If you’re looking for news on future models or upcoming changes to a current model, enthusiast forums have more fact and opinion than you’ll ever need.
  • You’ll hear about all the initial quality issues with the car you’re interested in. If the driver’s seat tends to rattle, or the new 2009s have a recall out, the forums will know.
  • Forum members are happy to discuss the deals they received on their purchases, giving you a true idea of what dealers are charging.
  • Because the forums are full of enthusiasts, there’s plenty of information on vehicle upgrades and modifications, if you’re interested in getting more performance or better looks out of your vehicle.

Enthusiast forums are around everywhere you look, with at least one for every manufacturer. They’re free to join, and you may just find yourself hooked on the wealth of information in these communities. While the list of forums below is somewhat abridged, there’s no question you’ll find some great insight on the following sites:

Acura:
AcuraWorld.com
Acurazine.com

Audi:
Audi-Forums.com

BMW:
Bimmerwerkz.com
1SeriesOnline.com

Cadillac:
CadillacForum.com
V-Series.net

Chevrolet:
ChevyTalk.org
Corvette-Forum.com

Chrysler:
300CForums.com

Dodge:
ChargerForums.com
ChallengerTalk.com

Ferrari:
Ferrari-Talk.com

Ford:
FordForums.com
Powerstroke.org

GMC:
DuramaxForum.com

Honda:
Honda-Tech.com

Hummer:
H2Fanatic.com

Hyundai:
Hyundai-Forums.com
HyundaiPerformance.com

Infiniti:
InfinitiForum.net

Jaguar:
Jag-Lovers.org

Jeep:
JeepForum.com
JeepsUnlimited.com

Kia:
Kia-Forums.com

Lamborghini:
Lamborghini-Talk.com

Land Rover:
LandRoversOnly.com

Lexus:
ClubLexus.com
LexusOwnersClub.com

Lincoln:
LincolnForums.com

Lotus:
LotusTalk.com

Maserati:
MaseratiLife.com

Mazda:
MazdaWorld.org

Mercedes-Benz:
BenzWorld.org
BenzForum.com

Mercury:
MercuryForum.com

MINI:
MINI2.com

Mitsubishi:
Mitsubishi-Forums.com

Nissan:
NissanForums.com
FreshAlloy.com

Pontiac:
G8Forum.com
SolsticeForum.com
G6OwnersClub.com

Porsche:
6SpeedOnline.com
BoxsterForums.com

Saab:
SaabCentral.com
SaabForums.com

Saturn:
RedlineForums.com
SkyRoadster.com

Scion:
ScionLife.com

Subaru:
WRXTuners.com

Suzuki:
Suzuki-Forums.com

Toyota:
ToyotaNation.com
Toyota-Yaris.com

Volkswagen:
VWVortex.com
VolkswagenTalk.com

Volvo:
Volvo-Forums.com

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Why Leasing Isn’t For Everyone

by Mitch on March 1, 2008

Automotive leasing has been gradually gaining steam every year, and consumers on the east and west coast have turned it into the preferred method of vehicle ownership. In the New York Metro Area for instance, leased vehicles often account for 75 - 90% of all automotive purchases.

So why hasn’t leasing caught on as fast in the rest of the country? Is it simply another case of the coasts setting the trend and the land-locked states showing up late to the party? Will leasing ever extinguish the concept of financing entirely? Because really, who in their right mind would want to pay $500/mo when they could pay $300/mo for the same exact vehicle?

Not so fast… financing is alive and well for many reasons, the most notable being that it’s still the better investment.

In fact, of the two options, financing is really the only one you could call an “investment”. In a lease, you’ve agreed to pay the vehicle off while its value is in the red - the period where it’s worth less than what you owe on it. It’s when the vehicle reaches a point of being in equity that financing and leasing take two different paths. At this point, a leased vehicle is returned to the bank, and you’re back to square one without a dollar in your pocket. Meanwhile, a financed vehicle becomes an asset once the vehicle is worth more than you owe, and usually reaches a maximum return value later on, around the time that you’re making your last few payments on the loan.

Finance ROI Chart
Lease ROI Chart
We can see how the length of ownership truly dictates how much value you’ll get out of your vehicle. If you get rid of cars every 3 or 4 years, then financing doesn’t really net you any profit (typical of drivers on the coast, hence the popularity of leasing). Holding onto your vehicle for 5 years or more is the secret to keeping your automotive expense as low as possible, and us fast talkin’, fast walkin’ folk on the coasts are too busy looking for the next best thing to stay in one car for that long. That’s why leasing is so popular on the coasts and not so much in the rest of the country, plain and simple.

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