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Why Aren’t My New Car Repairs Covered Under Warranty?

by Mitch on May 3, 2008

There’s an expectation consumers have about having repairs done on a new vehicle… namely, that if something goes wrong, they can take the car into the dealer, get it fixed for free, and get out. That’s the purpose of the new car warranty, right? But all too often, you find yourself putting up hundreds of dollars to fix an issue that the dealer tells you isn’t covered by the manufacturer. What’s up with this?

Well, there are several factors in play - some legitimate, some shady, and some that just defy explanation.

First off, the phrase “bumper-to-bumper” warranty is disappearing from manufacturers’ vocabularies. Your new vehicle may instead have a “limited” warranty, and you’ll find that there are actually quite a few items and situations not covered under that warranty, either because they involve wear-and-tear on the part of the owner, or are deemed to be typical necessities of car maintenance.

Now, I’m going to take a wild guess that most of you haven’t read your warranty manuals cover-to-cover, but even if you had, there are even more specific repair situations such as recalls and service bulletins that manufacturers will only partially cover, and these items can often be the main source of consumer frustration. For example, a car manufacturer may put out a service bulletin suggesting replacing an engine part that requires fluid, or is one of a set of parts. There’s a good chance they’ll cover the labor and the part itself, but not the cost of replacing the fluid… or, they’ll only cover repairs for one part, and if another in the set goes bad, you’re on your own. At the end of the day, you might have to pay $80 to solve a problem that your car had since it rolled off the assembly line, and that’s what really gets to consumers.

All this confusion from the manufacturer is bad enough, but when you throw dealerships into the mix, you get a recipe for disgruntled owners and angry letters galore. There’s something most consumers don’t know about dealership service departments, and without me even going into detail about it, you’ll immediately understand the repercussions: dealers get paid differently for warranty work vs. customer-paid work. The labor rate itself is usually the same, but for warranty work, manufacturers conduct test runs of the repair and then tell dealers how many hours the repair should take and what parts should be used. Of course, with customer-pay work, the repair could be anything and is no longer the manufacturer’s problem, so dealers can take as long as they like and use whatever parts they like.

So play the part of a service advisor for a second, and tell me what you’d do if an owner came in asking for warranty work to be done, when you know your Manager is breathing down your neck for more profits. Some dealers will try to add non-warranty repairs to the service in order to boost the final cost, while others may outright say that an item isn’t under warranty when it actually is.

It seems shady, and in many ways it is… but understand that a service technician doing work in his/her service bay for free is pure lost profit, and the test times manufacturers decree to dealers for warranty work estimates are often conducted under unrealistic conditions. Because of this, dealers have a legitimate beef with warranty work. If the manufacturer estimates 2.5 hours of work for a certain warranty repair, that’s what the dealer will get paid for. If it takes 4 hours because the bolts are corroded, or because the faulty equipment could not be removed cleanly, it doesn’t matter… the dealer only gets paid for those 2.5 hours, and at that point they just worked 1.5 hours for free. With the typical manufacturer warranty now approaching 100,000 miles, it’s easy to see how unreasonable it is to expect a repair to be done in the same amount of time regardless of the car’s age or condition.

Okay okay, I know you don’t feel that bad for dealers. They’re still trying to find ways to get money out of you when you bring your car in for “warranty” work, and that coupled with the confusing coverage from manufacturers is to blame for you having to open up your checkbook to fix someone else’s problem.

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Reading And Writing Effective Car Dealer Reviews

by Mitch on April 13, 2008

At DealerDex, we put a lot of stock into the value of consumer ratings and reviews, which is why we have our Car Dealer Reviews section available to all car shoppers. In our minds, reviews are the best way (and basically the only way) to sift through the dozens of dealers in your area and come out with a gem of a store that really puts the customer first.

However, in order for any consumer review site to be reliable, there has to be a very professional level of participation on the consumer’s end. It’s important to know how you can best contribute to the site, and what you should look for when reading reviews… this will ensure that you get reliable information to work with.

And so, we decided to post this little primer on effective dealer reviews. Be sure to read it over before browsing for your next dealership.

Writing Dealer Reviews

1. Write with a (mostly) clear head. Too often, we get reviews from consumers who are fresh off a negative experience, and all they can muster in their review is a pile of vulgarities and slurs. While it’s valuable for the consumer to post their dissatisfaction, the writing itself doesn’t make for very effective analysis. Take a moment to reflect on the situation (it’s okay to still be angry… you do want everyone to recognize that you’re upset), and try to write a review that objectively lays out what transpired and how you were affected.

2. Review ALL the dealers you dealt with. The whole point of car dealer reviews is to rank the quality of all dealerships in a hierarchy - not to just put down the bad ones. If you have a negative review about a dealer you didn’t buy from, well then you must have a more positive review of the dealer you did buy from… and that’s valuable information to the public.

3. Positive is just as important as negative. Maybe you’re seeing a theme here… consumers tend to only provide negative reviews, as it’s human nature to want some sort of justice when you’re dissatisfied. But, if everyone wrote negative reviews, no one would know which dealer to choose. The fact is, even the dealerships with the best reputations will end up having a problem with a customer now and again, but it wouldn’t be correct to only show that dealer’s problem customers to the public. What we all need is an accurate representation of dealers’ performance, and that comes from consumers like you taking the time out to provide positive feedback as well as negative.

Reading Dealer Reviews

1. Take everything with a grain of salt. Having worked in the business for years, I can say with confidence that many customers create (or at least contribute to) their own anguish when it comes to dealing with car salespeople. Nearly every negative review about a dealership has another side to it… sometimes the information left out is not that important, and sometimes it’s vital. You should take this into consideration when reading any dealer review.

2. Look at the dates of the reviews. Mistaking outdated information for current information is a common error in dealer reviews. Why, you ask? Well, consider the employee turnover ratio of this business: in many areas (namely the coasts and urban areas), the average Sales Manager might only stay at one store for a year or two. If you give a dealership three or four years, you could easily see a 75 - 90% turnover of its staff. So a pile of negative reviews from 2004 regarding a Service Department is only valid if those same people still work there and the mindset is the same. It’s sensible to look at the most recent reviews as the most accurate.

3. Consider the number of reviews and ratio of good to bad. One review is rarely enough information for you to base a decision on, and in some cases, the review could be an anomaly that doesn’t reflect the dealership correctly at all. If you find a dealer with three or more reviews (especially if they are all skewed one way), then you know you’ve got some great consumer information there. The more reviews, the more accurately the dealership is usually portrayed.

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